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928 Auctions on eBay for the week of Mar. 26 - Apr. 01

All auctions which ran during this week

**Newest Additions are at the top**

COMMENTARY:

eBay is too hot right now.  There have been a lot of examples that emphasize BUYER BEWARE lately, such as the listing below warning of fraud.  Shill bidding was apparent in at least 2 cases.  There was quite a wide selection of cars this week, with several Euro cars, a GTS, GT, and numerous low mileage cars.  Close examination of some of the cars showed a lot more defects than were revealed in the ads.  Look at this one.

I started to include retail Blue Book values a few weeks ago, based on the 94507 zip code, where I live (Alamo, CA).  Based on testing several cars, it appears Kelley divides the US into West and East halves,  as shown here with figures for an 87 928 with 90K miles, all states inside each half having the same value.  Invariably, the states in the West were higher.  The increment varies with make, model and year from 11.6% to 20%.  So, in the middle of this week I began to display East and West values.

AUCTIONS CURRENTLY OPEN FOR BIDS:  17
AUCTIONS CLOSED IN LAST SEVEN DAYS: 20
SALES IN LAST SEVEN DAYS: 12

Under each date for each item, the first row shows the bid amounts at the end of that day, while the second row is the total number of bids at that point..
Kelley Blue Book values shown are retail and only adjusted for mileage and options or upgrade.  Values for West and East regions are shown with location of car underlined.  West is always higher, and the percentage difference is indicated.  Blue Book online only goes back to 81.  For older cars I may include NADA, but I find NADA numbers way out of line on older cars.

Vehicle Bid conditions My Comments 03/26 03/27 03/28 03/29 03/30 03/31 04/01
Item #575440493
1986 928 S Auto with 73K miles

Blue Book $12,650 West/$10,725 East (18.0%)

Was Item #573169724
SOLD $14,100.09 on Mar-29

Was Item #571648399
SOLD $8,600 on Mar-22

Was Item #568007311
SOLD $10,100 on Mar-15

 


$1,000 minimum,
NO RESERVE
Opened Mar-31
Closes Apr-05
CAUTION:  THIS APPEARS TO BE FRAUD!

This car has been "sold" repeatedly, the last time less than 2 days ago.  Now it shows up being sold by the winning bidder from the previous auction. If you go back though all the previous sales, you will see nearly all the bidders have zero or 1 feedback.  This is very suspicious.  Certainly, seeing the car being sold by the new owner less than 2 days after it closed and in a different state with no change in mileage (eh, broken odometer) should tip you off that these guys are up to no good.  I have reported this to eBay and asked the seller to pull down the ad.  Note the new ad shows an 87 motor.  The motor issue was picked up by a Rennlist 928 mail list member who also noted this was the same car as Item 537169724.  I came to the easy conclusion that this looks like shill bidding, as I suspected on the previous close way over Blue Book.  As I said then, "Closed way over book to a zero feedback bidder (flake or shill).  Bet we will see this car again."

Hee, hee.  As someone pointed out on one of the message boards, check out the lug nuts in this pic.  Wheels have been spray painted...on the car!  Also, shift knob appears gone in this pic.

- - - - - $4,650 $5,100
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Item #575565887
1985 928 S Manual with 174K miles

Blue Book $ West/$ East (.%)

$5,500 minimum,
NO RESERVE
$9,750 Buy It Now,
Opened Mar-31
Closes Apr-09
Comments to follow... - - - - - $0 $0
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Item #575217132
1990 928 GT Manual with 44K miles

Blue Book $21,895 West/$19,095 East (14.7%)

$10,000 minimum,
$26,000 Buy It Now,
Opened Mar-30
Closes Apr-09
Looks hot.  The Turbo Twist wheels are growing on me a little.  If as says, should be a quick sale.  Phil's GT with more miles hit $23K.  Recent low mile GT was bid to $25K (no sale).  Kelley does not show the GT, just the S4, so the Blue Book numbers are hard to use.   - - - - $17,550 $19,100 $19,100
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Item #575059324
1993 928 GTS Auto with 80K miles

Blue Book $38,055 West/$33,830 East (12.5%)

Was Item #568956572
Closed Mar-21
NO SALE (no bids)
$19,280 minimum,
Opened Mar-29
Closes Apr-08 

As he says, "let's try this again."  Much lower minimum will draw some bids.  Here's what I said the first time through.

Get out your checkbooks.  Actually, it just looks "OK" from limited pictures.  Interesting direct underside shot.  If you blow it up, you can see a fair amount of corrosion from Toronto winters.  No interior views.  Could be due to low resolution shot, but engine compartment looks winter worn as well.  GTSs may be rare, but I have a hunch this one may not even get any bids.

- - - $0 $19,280 $21,000 $21,600
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Item #574864796
1979 928 Manual with 90K miles

Blue Book $

$2,000 minimum,
Opened Mar-29
Closes Apr-08 

79 updated to S4 look.  Two-tone interior.  Not enough pics to go on.  Says needs tranny "adjustment".  Hmmm...  Gives reserve as between $4.5-5K.  Almost there in first day.

- - - $4,250 $4,450 $4,895 $4,945
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Item #574965019
1984 928 S Auto with 87K miles

Blue Book $7,550 West/$6,375 East  (18.4%)

$12,000 minimum,
$12,000 "Buy It Now"
Opened Mar-29
Closes Apr-08 

Eh, a real dreamer here.  First "buy It Now" car I have seen.  Too bad he is wasting his time.

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Item #574970981
1989 928 S4 Auto with 79K miles

Blue Book $19,050 West/$16,450 East  (15.8%)

$100 minimum,
Opened Mar-29
Closes Apr-05 

Nice ad with lots of pics, excepting engine compartment.  Carfax shows car is from New York, with very low miles in first few years, at least, so it may have escaped Winter.  Interior appears to be all leather except the dash and front console.  Very clean inside and out.

- - - $8,600 $9,300 $13,100 $13,400
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Item #574647822
1987 928 S4 Auto with 102K miles

Blue Book $15,350 West/$13,100 East  (17.2%)

$8,500 minimum,
Opened Mar-28
Closes Apr-07 

Pics from video are too fuzzy and small to be helpful.  Carfax checks out OK.  Owner says all the right things about maintenance.

- - $0 $8,500 $8,500 $8,500 $8,500
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Item #574641074
1980 928 S Euro Auto with 97K miles

Blue Book $??

$2,000 minimum,
Opened Mar-28
Closes Apr-02 
Give this seller credit for overt enthusiasm.  He has a way with words that is hard to describe.  For instance: "The A/C may or may not work. I never worried about it. Its more fun to drive with the windows down anyway!"  Has a honker of a woofer in rear.  Most pics are too small to see details.  Full leather, 18" wheels, notes some interior age cracks and wear. - - $3,050 $4,150 $4,550 $4,550 $4,550
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Item #574053123
1987 928 S4 Auto with 81K miles

NO SALE - CANCELLED

Blue Book $NA

$2,000 minimum,
Opened Mar-26
Closes Apr-02 

Parts car I didn't see come up on the 26th.  Says no VIN after theft recovery and fire.  Fishy.

$0 $2,200 $2,950 $3,050 $3,050 $0
(CANCELLED)
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Item #574430420
1981 928 Manual with 104K miles

Blue Book $NA

Was Item #568955284
Closed Mar-21
SOLD $1,625
$1,500 minimum,
Opened Mar-27
Closes Apr-03 
Another bounce back.  First time comments.

Parts car.  Actually he could do a lot better if he parted it out himself.  I hope Jr was grounded for life.

- $1,500 $1,500 $0
(bid retraction)
$0 $0 $0
- 1 1 0 0 0 0
Item #574444500
1986 928 S Auto with 91K miles

Blue Book $12,100

Was Item #572067003
Closed Mar-27
NO SALE at $10,000
$5,000 minimum,
Opened Mar-27
Closes Apr-03 
Closed with no sale at $10K in previous auction.  Here's first time comments.

Nice looking all leather interior.  Looks good in and out with just dusty motor.

- $0 $5,700 $5,900 $6,500 $7,600 $8,600
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Item #574137426
1989 928 S4 Auto with 33K miles

SOLD $20,001
Blue Book $19,825

Was Item #566923030
Pulled from database on Mar-10

 

$20,000 minimum,
Opened Mar-27
Closes Apr-0
Back again.  This car was going along nicely in the previous auction when it was pulled from the database despite having reached $19K.  Guess he wasn't happy and has revised the minimum to $20K.  My belief is the seller is upside down in the car.  Starting at $20K is going to make selling this tough.  Here's what I said the first time.

I don't know what is going in Pittsburgh, but this fella has had a couple very low mile cars that look fine from the pics, such as Item #556243379.  Well, here's another he is selling.  No flaws noted.  Not a load of pics.  If real, should go about $18-19K.  

Update:  There is an error in the VIN report on CarFax regarding mileage- an obvious decimal point error.  There is no odometer rollback.

- $0 $20,001
(reserve met)
(Weird - seller set minimum and reserve the same.)
$20,001 $20,001 $20,001 $20,001
(CLOSED)
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Item #573832571
1979 928 Euro Auto with 118K miles

Blue Book $

$4,899 minimum,
Opened Mar-26
Closes Apr-02 
Euro with some front fender damage, fair amount of upkeep work done, newer flats. $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Item #573695810
1984 928 S Auto with 127K miles

Blue Book $6,785

$1,000 minimum,
Opened Mar-25
Closes Apr-04 
84 with S4 decal, polished flats.  Looks nice except for driver seat (appropriate for miles, easily fixable).  Quotes crazy NADA value. $5,001.01 $5,101.01 $6,200 $6,200 $6,200 $6,200 $6,200
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Item #573550394
1981 928 Manual with 89K miles

NO SALE
Blue Book $5,425

Was Item #573240093
Closed Mar-25
NO SALE

$7,355 minimum,
NO RESERVE
Opened Mar-25
Closes Apr-01
Re-listed, now with pics.  Still overpriced. $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0
(CLOSED)
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Item #572860069
1985 928 S Manual with 97K miles

Blue Book $11,125

$5,000 minimum,
Opened Mar-23
Closes Apr-02 
Give this seller an award for the most pics ever.  Ad is quite honest, showing flaws up close.  In addition I do see slight misalignment of the front bumper cover and hood. New tires on polished flats. $9,600
(reserve met)
$9,600 $9,600 $9,600 $9,700 $10,900 $12,000
34 34 34 34 35 40 44
Item #572893218
1987 928 S4 Auto with 73K miles

NO SALE
Blue Book $16,910

$1,000 minimum,
Opened Mar-23
Closes Mar-28 
New C2 wheels.  I like the lipstick red interior. Re-spray, but says "done right." $10,100 $10,600 $12,100
(CLOSED)
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Item #572751185
1980 928 Manual with 114K miles

SOLD $3,500
NADA Retail $6,250 - $12,250

$1,000 minimum,
Opened Mar-22
Closes Apr-01 
Decent older car.  Some wear and tear. $3,500 $3,500 $3,500 $3,500 $3,500 $3,500 $3,500
(CLOSED)
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Item #572561327
1988 928 S4 Auto with 75K miles
CORRECTION : 1987 Model

SOLD $10,100
Blue Book $16,725

$100 minimum,
NO RESERVE
Opened Mar-22
Closes Mar-27 
This car looks like it could be a steal. Ad says seats are cloth but clearly shows they are seat covers over new looking leather.  No reserve with a $100 opening bid is ballsy.

UPDATE: CarFax clearly shows a hidden mileage rollback OR an error in the ad.  The car looks well-preserved, so 75K miles is believable, but with 68K miles in 1992 and 88K miles in 1994, we have a serious error here.  BUYER BEWARE!

$9,100 $10,100
(CLOSED)
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Item #573097488
1978 928 Manual with 89K miles

Blue Book $??

$5,000 minimum,
NO RESERVE
Opened Mar-24
Closes Apr-03 
Raced prepped with numerous mods. Seller may have goofed on his ad.  This car is listed on Devek for $17K!  I think he may have forgotten to put up a reserve.  This car is going to sell. $7,600 $8,200 $8,400 $8,500 $8,500 $8,600 $8,700
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Item #573169724
1986 928 S Auto with 73K miles

SOLD $14,100.09
Blue Book $12,650

Was Item #571648399
SOLD $8,600 on Mar-22

Was Item #568007311
SOLD $10,100 on Mar-15

 

$5,000 minimum,
NO RESERVE
Opened Mar-24
Closes Mar-29
Again?  This is the third time through.  Here's what I said the first time.

Early 86 that looks nice outside and decent inside.  Carfax is OK.  Dealer notes t-belt and pump done recently.  Dealer indicates low price.  Carfax does show that the car has not been driven a single mile since it was bought by the dealer in November.

Update:  Closed way over book to a zero feedback bidder (flake or shill).  Bet we will see this car again.

$7,500 $5,300
(bid retraction)
$7,500 $14,100.09
(reserve met)
(CLOSED)

(Zero feedback bidder went nuts!  Looks suspicious.)

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Item #573115444
1985 928 Euro S Auto with 44K miles

SOLD $11,877
Blue Book $12,310 (non- Euro)

$8,500 minimum,
Opened Mar-24
Closes Mar-31
Claimed one owner, very low mile, carefully serviced, white on white (looks to be all leather).  Has Cup wheels.  Looks very nice.

Update:  Well, the winning bidder found things weren't quite as represented.  Here are some pics.  If you save the engine compartment pic and look at it close up, there are signs of rust and general wear far beyond 44K southern miles.

$8,900 $10,200 $10,200 $10,200 $11,000 $11,877
(CLOSED)
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Item #572933792
1983 928 Euro S Manual with 32K miles

Blue Book $6,150 (non- Euro)

$8,500 minimum,
Opened Mar-23
Closes Apr-02

 

Claimed extremely low mile 83.  Looks clean enough. $0 $8,600 $9,300 $9,300 $9,500 $9,600 $9,600
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Item #572897542
1981 928 Auto with 118K miles

NO SALE
Blue Book $5,885

$1,000 minimum,
Opened Mar-23
Closes Mar-30

 

Overall nice looking car, with new paint, new leather and polished flats, although dash/glovebox looks a bit warped. $4,550 $5,050 $5,150 $5,354.54 $5,600
(CLOSED)
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Item #573047200
1986 928 S Auto with 77K miles

Blue Book $12,710

$2,500 minimum,
Opened Mar-23
Closes Apr-02

 

Early 86 S that looks very nice (lots of pics).  No faults noted. Claimed flawless.  Carfax just shows just a bunch of FL emission test passes. $9,000 $12,100 $12,100 $12,100 $12,600 $12,600 $12,600
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Item #572793182
1979 928 Manual with 70K miles

SOLD $5,100
NADA Retail $6,025-$11,808 ??

$3,400 minimum,
NO RESERVE
Opened Mar-22
Closes Mar-27

 

Largely redone 79 needing a few finish items according to the seller.  Very low miles for a 79. $4,100 $5,100
(CLOSED)
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Item #572399614
1986.5 928 S Auto with 160K miles

SOLD $7,300
Blue Book $10,075

$5,000 minimum,
Opened Mar-21
Closes Mar-31

 

Should have hosed the leaves off.  Looks nice outside (no bump strips).   A late 86, so has S4 updates, but not an S4 per se.  Carfax shows the most recent title was issued as "not actual mileage."  Everything looks consistent prior to that. $6,000 $6,800 $6,800 $6,800 $6,800 $7,300
(reserve met)
(CLOSED)
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Item #572464245
1983 928 S Auto with 92K miles

SOLD $7,301
Blue Book $5,750

$1,500 minimum,
Opened Mar-21
Closes Mar-26

 

Celebrity car (big deal).  Nice looking from low res shots of exterior (no bump strips)  Carfax is clean.  At least he quickly corrected model year error. $7,301
(CLOSED)
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Item #572240240
1992 928 Widebody Auto with 40K miles

SOLD $12,000
Blue Book $??

$6,500 minimum,
Opened Mar-21
Closes Mar-31

 

There may be a bit of a language barrier here, as I am not sure just what is being sold.  Is it a 92 928 or just the Jacquemond "Aerodyne Wide" body components?  Pardon me for being literal.  If it is the car, why is only A/C listed with no other details?  Goofy ad. $11,000 $11,000 $11,000 $11,000 $11,000 $12,000
(CLOSED)
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Item #572067003
1986 928 S Manual with 91K miles

NO SALE
Blue Book $12,100

$5,000 minimum,
Opened Mar-20
Closes Mar-27

 

Ooops!  Another one I missed this on the 20th.  Nice looking all leather interior.  Looks good in and out with just dusty motor. $9,900 $10,000
(CLOSED)
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Item #572044458
1985 928 S EURO Auto with 76K miles

SOLD $11,600
Blue Book $11,935 ??  EURO not listed, of course.

$1,800 minimum,
Opened Mar-20
Closes Mar-30

 

Ooops!  Missed this on the 20th.  Nice looking car - looks great in and out and has polished flats.  Ad has lots of pics excepting engine shot.  California smogged Euro. $10,600 $10,600 $10,900 $11,400
(reserve met)
$11,600
(CLOSED)
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Item #572102336
1982 928 Weissach Auto with 85K miles

NO SALE
Blue Book $??.  $5,785 is listed for 82 non-Weissach.

$8,000 minimum,
Opened Mar-21
Closes Mar-27

 

This is the 4th Weissach on eBay in the last 6 weeks, and the 2nd from San Diego.  This could be the nicest of the bunch.  Appears to have the original wheels.  Carfax shows only 8K miles in last 5 years. $0 $0
(CLOSED)
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Item #571896796
1987 928 S4 Auto with 82K miles

SOLD $13,000
Blue Book $16,585

$5,000 minimum,
Opened Mar-20
Closes Mar-27

 

Looks decent.  No obvious flaws seen in small pics.  Mentions power seat problem - probably switch needs cleaning.  Carfax is OK.  Shows only 7K miles in last 7 years. $13,000 $13,000
(CLOSED)
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Item #571538458
1985 928 E(?) Manual with 33K miles

NO SALE
Blue Book $12,310

$18,999 minimum,
Opened Mar-19
Closes Mar-29

 

Jeez.  Two crazy people in a row.  I guess the world needs dreamers.  What's a 928E, by the way?  Maybe a Euro model.  Why not say so? $0 $0 $0 $0
(CLOSED)
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Item #571350354
1989 928 S4 Auto with 68K miles

NO SALE
Blue Book $19,475

$14,000 minimum,
Opened Mar-18
Closes Mar-28

 

Low mile  89 looks nice.  Carfax shows odometer disparity in 98 - probably an error. $14,100 $14,200 $14,200
(CLOSED)
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Item #570634966
1986 928 S Auto with 105K miles

SOLD $11,000
Blue Book $11,600

$1,000 minimum,
Opened Mar-16
Closes Mar-26

 

Lots of photos, seller seems forthright.  All leather interior with some driver seat cracks.

Note on 3/18:  Most of the high bids are from ZERO feedback bidders.  This is either some kids fooling around or shill bidding.

$11,000
(CLOSED)
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